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[Antavious]

Do you know what exactly killed you and what were you doing at that point? I felt was easier with lvl 80 shadow priest than lvl 95 hybrid warrior. With priest I finished, problem was Maradar where had to use voltans. With warrior was instant kill at 6th boss 1st run. 2nd run was alone left with 2 other lvl 95 players, everyone else died.
Regarding key, happened to me too. On a 2nd run I didn't pick up 2 keys so I just went in panick through open door...I actually thought you only needed key for the first time kill...

I mostly got ground down over time I can’t be 1 shot might have been the second boss for a couple of deaths he dose seam to be one of the harder hitters but basically it was just a lot of stuff that kept coming in all the fights that my self def/healing + our non lvl 95 healers couldn’t compensate for.

 

[Candy Cotton]

I mostly got ground down over time I can’t be 1 shot might have been the second boss for a couple of deaths he dose seam to be one of the harder hitters but basically it was just a lot of stuff that kept coming in all the fights that my self def/healing + our non lvl 95 healers couldn’t compensate for.

so tonight I was dead in Rift very fast. First boss took half of my health while standing on the red circle/black dust thing. 2nd time he hit with that, thought would happen same (phoenix strike heals just fine with conjured reg. trinket) but was instant kill. So that was a little experiment from my side, to see how much I can take it. As a melee I dont like to move around much away from boss, but obviously cant stay on him with 250k health. Now im supposed to change my build and/or walk around like ranged. This is something that really turnes me off the map. Players should have a chance to stay who they are no matter what zone they kill, and not be forced to change from roots in order to successfully finish. For raids I alredy became half fury half tanky warrior, but now to think to invest again more in defense than in dps....nah...

So after I died, I try to come back. I passed near Pinbon and I heared you guys still fighiting with boss. Tried to enter but door wont open. Was on mobile and taping door unsuccessfully. After boss died, door opened, or was that coincidence? He didnt count and I had no key. But players with keys keep proceeding to 2nd boss and I just ran thru open door. So I wasnt there when boss died and without key went to 2nd one.

At 2nd boss happened something really interesting. Last night when I died there with priest was from the ball he throws. From my priest perspective as I was in front of him, I saw balls falling only in front of him. So tonight with warrior went behind his back. I was out of healer range, everyone else was opposite side of me. I saw him throw balls on group. but saw no ball in my direction. Dmg was minimal until at one point I was instant dead. I saw nothing. Ball was not going in my direction. Biteme told me, he throw ball on me, but I saw just black screen of death. As I was about to go to tp, very close my left side were black feathers of dog/wolf thing? So either killed me that or ball I didnt see. Alot things you dont see playing on mobile. Last night was easier with priest on PC.
So my idea of standing behind boss to avoid balls, out of healers range was not a good idea.

 

[Antavious]

We had so many tanks today neia and winter normally take Argo as they are more threat/dps build than me I’m more focused on def I lost my “will to live” on the 5th boss my bad really forgot to use liberty (4th had a lot of cc too but I’m good at powering through) but the 5th dose a long ice stun and pounds hard. Then in the 6th i went down and had to use a Rez (all the adds have that if you kill them you lose a huge % of hp and that boss + the aoe kinda means the tank is gonna get punished for any players slipping up) other than that I didn’t die but that’s me.

my first 4 bounties were still on cool-down and no keys dropped (might be the reason for that) but as long as people opened the door I could still get in to the next.

 

[Candy Cotton]

Combat chart at Rift from first two bosses should be class balanced, no?

Top 5 dmg - priests, wizard
Top 5 dmg taken - warrior, lvl 95
So for war to make it thru, a good invest in defense rather than dps is a must? Or am I missing the point. I know priests use their aoe as well, but this time seems they were on a very safe distance, Im not even sure if I seen contagion which is a very strong curse and for sure would share the dmg taken if they were using it, since 1st boss is war. Hope nobody gets me wrong, Im not calling names here. Just trying to understand.

 

[Candy Cotton]

I mostly got ground down over time I can’t be 1 shot might have been the second boss for a couple of deaths he dose seam to be one of the harder hitters but basically it was just a lot of stuff that kept coming in all the fights that my self def/healing + our non lvl 95 healers couldn’t compensate for.

i never die from dmg over time, always crit. Dont use heal bottles just self heal from phoenix and conjured trinket. For my lvl 250k is not much but i dont think more health would make a difference. If its not a secret, what is your highest glyph? Mine is Berserk and there might be a problem for critting. Bosses sometimes really smash me for those 30 sec of power from berserk....

 

[Candy Cotton]

May I address the issue?

Im in game around 4 yrs. What I ve learned so far from event zones and combat charts is that, there is always a group of people who dont wanna spend mana bottles and are on auto-attack leaving others to do the job. When you have a situation like that, then of course you need tanks, couple of strong dmg players and a healer, so auto-attackers can save mana and get reward. Dmg taken should be fairly even among group if everyone is doing what suppose to be doing.

This is not the case in Rift. You can see excitement and effort among people trying to do all they can to make it thru. In Rift is problem perhaps fear of death? If you die there, there is no coming back without voltan or mana efflux. And if you dont have it, need to wait 24h for group to form again. Event zone can do several times per day.
However, when i was in Rift with lvl 80 priest, I was always far away from boss, doing everything to survive until 10th boss so I can finish quest. I didnt use AOE at all, so I know others took alot dmg for me for which I am thankfull. I did tried my best with doing dmg from far but....know I could have done alot more....Mob can never dmg as much as boss can, but for that to see you need to be on him half of your combat time. Best zone to understand that is Pyrron. There is a reason why ranged class has melee runes.

 

[Antavious]

your build seams fine and I’m sure rift will be getting damage nerfs lots of very strong builds are being punished right now just hang in there and don’t get too worried if your getting kicked about a bit right now. If I’m getting smacked up then we know the balance is off for sure, maybe give the EZ and a few emp ladders a go until the next tweaks for rift come in? I’m sure it won’t be long

 

[Candy Cotton]

your build seams fine and I’m sure rift will be getting damage nerfs lots of very strong builds are being punished right now just hang in there and don’t get too worried if your getting kicked about a bit right now. If I’m getting smacked up then we know the balance is off for sure, maybe give the EZ and a few emp ladders a go until the next tweaks for rift come in? I’m sure it won’t be long

Well, I have alot unlearn talent bottles that I rarely use, so I will see tonight to test more points in defense. Or to change drum from liberty to something else...
When I hit lvl90, before Blight zones and later 95, had all points in fury and middle tree mana. Two years later I was slowly transforming into hybrid, but now I'm not sure I like what's going on with my build.
Pure fury has few very weak spots to solo raids, and Rift and ladder without assistance. And seems you can't go nowhere without big amount of mana/ heal bottles unless you have it in your talent build. Would help if eventually they rise lvl cap.....but...it's that possible in near future?

 

[Candy Cotton]

Tonights run on EU1 started with about 30 players, and finished with 20.
11 players on screenshoot all died in between 1st and 4th boss. Later on just few players died and resurrect.



Last night I went with around 250k health and died at 1st boss. Tonight my moves were same, difference was in build and 300k health.
I died at 2nd boss. Cause of death: saw no incoming bomb... There was seriously nothing on my screen. All was fine, dmg was minimal, there was one hit which took half of my health, no mob was around me, I was on the boss......in that millisecond when I was about hit phoenix and conjured reg trinket I died, from half health to zero. And according to screen-shoot, there were 3 bombs ?? From where? He drops them from all directions, regardless where he looks? He was not supposed to see me if I was not in front of him...




So after I end up on tp, went to NPC and gave her 20 mana to teleport me back. And guess what, she teleport me not back in fight, but in front of his door. Omg this was so disturbing....and I was so upset, could not open the door and continue fight. When they killed the boss the door of course opened and key was waiting me there on the floor. Seriously? I payed 20 mana eflux to stand in front of Nashanni's door and just get the key withouth chance to get involved in a fight? At that point I had no interest in key. Boss was dead and there was a bitter taste of victory while proceeding to the next boss Ayect. Was more of a feeling of defeat mixed with excitement whats gonna be next.
Ayect made no problems. She is simple dracata with tornado which you need to avoid in order to stay ok.

So, this is what happens when you underestimate a mob. 4th boss spawns craggejs. So far they were not a big deal even with their blasting. Did not consider him a real threat. They were just exhausting to kill. I was stunned, health keep dropping until half, could not hit my trinket, and that was it. Died from half health to zero. I felt stun last longer than usual. I was on liberation drum. Shouldnt last that long. Maybe was lag.
Had no more mana eflux to tp back, and no voltans.

 

[Stephen Huszar]

could not open the door and continue fight.

I don't know if it's the case, but today door was bugged for me, when i clicked on them, animation of opening didn't happen, but i could pass through them even if they remained closed, physically they were open, even if person from inside boss room opened them for me, animation was just bugged

 

[Antavious]

People in the room can open the doors for you I ran twice today the first I didn’t die at all (I’m getting more used to what can kill me here I guess) the second time I went down on the second boss too. players were reporting 400k hits with no way to evade so yeah it was bad I used 30 M.E to rejoin at the next boss but still had to be let in to the room by someone who was already inside after that nothing else took me down the threats are:-

boss 5 which dose some serious ice cc as long as a healer notices I’m fine but it’s pretty much rely on others to keep me up there even with liberty.
boss 6 the skitters are super punishing to the tank as if one gets hit your automatically low hp and getting hit by the boss so split second is all you get if someone else makes a mistake (bit harsh reminds me of that lvl 80 elder that takes everyone hp to 1 except the person with aggro)
and boss 9 but only if you don’t use a liberty dram lots of micro stuns there but liberty makes it harmless.

 

[Candy Cotton]

People in the room can open the doors for you I ran twice today the first I didn’t die at all (I’m getting more used to what can kill me here I guess) the second time I went down on the second boss too. players were reporting 400k hits with no way to evade so yeah it was bad I used 30 M.E to rejoin at the next boss but still had to be let in to the room by someone who was already inside after that nothing else took me down the threats are:-

boss 5 which dose some serious ice cc as long as a healer notices I’m fine but it’s pretty much rely on others to keep me up there even with liberty.
boss 6 the skitters are super punishing to the tank as if one gets hit your automatically low hp and getting hit by the boss so split second is all you get if someone else makes a mistake (bit harsh reminds me of that lvl 80 elder that takes everyone hp to 1 except the person with aggro)
and boss 9 but only if you don’t use a liberty dram lots of micro stuns there but liberty makes it harmless.

so if skitter gets hit (or killed?) only tank gets low hp or everyone? Does boss start to heal with dead skitter? Did I noticed well, the green stuff on the floor from boss only spreds from his behind?

 

[Candy Cotton]

Tonights run started with 32 players, 16 made it to the end. Most of them died up to 5th boss.

Screenshot is from 2nd boss Nashani, they all died almost at the same time.



Earlier today I went Underbelly to take a look at sindahls (1st boss) and goblins (2nd boss). So Yithal is sindahl, a warrior who does dmg over time and can hit hard if you are melee on him during red cricle/black dust bubbles thing. So make sure to either move away or have your health full at that very moment.

Now look at the picture from Underbelly. He looks so funny but he's not. Last time I died from Nashanni was standing exactly under his right arm. Thats why I couldnt see bombs he drop. From left hand to right hand, then he grabs it with both and throw. This is dangerous for melee as must pay attention where he precisely stands on him.



I didnt die this time, was all the time behind his back out of his sight, on him. Then he summoned mobs so I moved few steps back to hit little goblin. Was little bit lag or not? Goblin was not moving and immune? Could not dmg him. After few seconds he start to hit me, not much dmg and fight seemed to be ok, but at the same time Nashanni start to move his body (clockwise?) and with that changed his sight. That little goblin pulled me strongly on the right side of the room at Nashanni sight. Or was that lag? I moved back fast at the spot we were fighting before and killed him. Goblins are not suppose to be moving, right?

So while Nashanni was turning around himself (90 -0-90?) was dropping alot more bombs everywhere and I m not sure, but faster too. There were mobs around and people start dying. Felt like bomb per second.

 

[Candy Cotton]

I died at 6th boss Lisosia.
I was not standing at any point around my death in green pool/circle rain or green 'carpet' that appears behind boss. I was alone with another player on the boss, we just passed near one fungasite. I hit aoe by mistake. Other players were not in my sight. There was lag tonight. Green pool appeared and I safely moved away, backwards. Green pool dissappeared, I was back on boss at his face, not back. My health was at 80%.
So I died. Me and another player.

I hit aoe by mistake near fungasite, but was not in green pool/rain.

 

[Candy Cotton]

Tonights run started with 33 players and 19 made it to the end. Again, like every run so far, there were serious issues at 2nd boss.
At EU1 there are 2 runs per day, i dont' know how went the other one, but same thing happened like last night.

These 8 players died in the moment when Nashani was rotating like crazy. Im not sure, but think he made a full circle around himself. Few mobs were around the room. Thats all I saw. My eyes were on my health, as I was struggling to keep it up. I was very low on health and trying to stay on Nashani's back. It seemed impossible as he was rotating and dropping bombs too fast. I nearly died, took one health bottle as phoenix and conj trinket did nothing. I moved from boss in panic - everyone around me was dying, bombs were dropping everywhere and was trying to find a safe spot. I was hysterically running around. Trying to avoid red circles from bombs and Nashani's sight. I seriously thought if he look at me, I'm dead.
I stopped at wolf, he was somewhere around bosses back, my health normalized as I hit the wolf (phoenyx heals when you hit). Boss was still, he wasnt rotating any more. He died.
All these players are different classes. I dont know what they were doing at the point of death, everything was going on very fast and was impossible to take screen-shoot since I was struggling myself to survive.

 

[Candy Cotton]

I dont know what to say on this. 3rd boss Ayect.
3 full heal bottles helped me. As I was about to take another one, since Ayect was near end, I died. These crits were under 1 min. If I had just half sec more to click on bottle, I would've survived.

Firenado ability? Tornado? I was on the Ayect and tornado was in front of me. But I wasn't IN the tornado. Unless it starts from the boss and then moves around.
This was the most shocking and confusing part of the evening. So far, this was the easiest boss to kill, from my perspective. I never had any problems with this boss and his tornado.
7 players died at the very moment. Few of us were on the boss, others were out of my sight.

• Savage: This enemy has 20% increased chance to critically strike and inflicts 25% increased critical strike damage.

Is this 20% chance to critically strike? 4 crits under 1 min.

 

[Antavious]

The second boss goes pretty nutty if his minion count goes too high or too low it seams to be 2 or less or 7 or more minions. Players should also try to keep clear of the boss himself as tanks/melee players best def against bombs is to keep moving.

 

[Candy Cotton]

The second boss goes pretty nutty if his minion count goes too high or too low it seams to be 2 or less or 7 or more minions. Players should also try to keep clear of the boss himself as tanks/melee players best def against bombs is to keep moving.

I'm not sure I understood well what you said. How many mobs he spawn? They don't all appear at the same time. So basically it's our fault we die, becouse don't understand his mechanics? You don't think anything else is wrong there?

Having heard nothing from other servers seems they're all doing Rift with no major issues.
Of course in a group of 30+ ppl with die, but massive death in every run on 2nd boss seems something needs to be changed.

Out of 30 ppl, around 20 finished. Don't know how many voltans were used, but they were used. Other unlucky players had Avoidance under 50% and/ or poor health?

Mistakes happen, but 10 ppl to make mistake at the same time with same boss over and over again....nah..

 

[Antavious]

I’m not saying it isn’t too difficult, what I’m saying is in general we aren’t doing exactly what the mechanics are asking of us.

when the boss gets to about 80% hp he starts to spawn adds if he has only 2 or less adds up he goes a bit nasty. So we need to let adds live at this point but when he has 7+ adds he also goes nasty and we need to kill some. There are 2 threats here:-

1. when he Is a nasty state your best option is to run and heal
2. the adds them self need control so in large groups they don’t start mobbing players

basically we would see less deaths if we controlled these things and if we are aware of them and react to them. Frankly I think smaller groups will fair better at this but yes ultimately the mechanics are hard to play around for all but the most experienced players that in its self might suggest a nerf is a good idea.

 

[IrishElf]

Some players have complained for a long time asking for HARD content. This is what you've been given.

There are some things you have to figure out with each boss, things that are a part of each bounty's defenses that you need to observe to figure out how to defeat it.