Gathering bans.

[CaraLox]

With each update comes a new learning curve... we are all learning new stuff together!

Yes, and over all I really like the changes and kudos to the otters @Sarah Otter (share with your colleagues) very nice job and God speed on fixing the bugs thank you.

 

[Diet]

Just to be super clear.

What is happening now on live:

1. A player exhausts a node.
2. They click once. Get a warning message.
3. They click twice. Get a warning message.
4. They click a third time. Get a warning message.
5. They click a fourth time. Get a warning message.
6. They click a fifth time. They are kicked from game back to character select.
7. The player logs back in.
8. They click that same gathering node again. They will get kicked back to character select. THIS IS THE BUG.
9. ...this continues on....
10. The player has now been removed back to character select a total of 4 times.
11. They click one too many times on an exhausted node. They are kicked back to character select for the 5th time...
12. But now that it is 5 times, they are banned for 1 hour.
13. After the hour is up. They log back in, and they can do it all over again.

This is how we want it to be happening:

1. A player exhausts a node.
2. They click once. Get a warning message.
3. They click twice. Get a warning message.
4. They click a third time. Get a warning message.
5. They click a fourth time. Get a warning message.
6. They click a fifth time. They are kicked from game back to character select.
7. The player logs back in.
8. They click that same gathering node again. They get a warning message (the bug is now fixed!)
9. They click again, get a second warning message.
10. Yada Yada Yada
11. They click a fifth time, they get kicked back to character select a second time.
12. ...this continues on....
13. The player has now been removed back to character select a total of 4 times.
14. They click one too many times on an exhausted node. They are kicked back to character select for the 5th time...
15. But now that it is 5 times, they are banned for 1 hour.
16. After the hour is up. They log back in, and they can do it all over again.

 

[Caly]

Just to be super clear.

What is happening now on live:

1. A player exhausts a node.
2. They click once. Get a warning message.
3. They click twice. Get a warning message.
4. They click a third time. Get a warning message.
5. They click a fourth time. Get a warning message.
6. They click a fifth time. They are kicked from game back to character select.
7. The player logs back in.
8. They click that same gathering node again. They will get kicked back to character select. THIS IS THE BUG.
9. ...this continues on....
10. The player has now been removed back to character select a total of 4 times.
11. They click one too many times on an exhausted node. They are kicked back to character select for the 5th time...
12. But now that it is 5 times, they are banned for 1 hour.
13. After the hour is up. They log back in, and they can do it all over again.

This is how we want it to be happening:

1. A player exhausts a node.
2. They click once. Get a warning message.
3. They click twice. Get a warning message.
4. They click a third time. Get a warning message.
5. They click a fourth time. Get a warning message.
6. They click a fifth time. They are kicked from game back to character select.
7. The player logs back in.
8. They click that same gathering node again. They get a warning message (the bug is now fixed!)
9. They click again, get a second warning message.
10. Yada Yada Yada
11. They click a fifth time, they get kicked back to character select a second time.
12. ...this continues on....
13. The player has now been removed back to character select a total of 4 times.
14. They click one too many times on an exhausted node. They are kicked back to character select for the 5th time...
15. But now that it is 5 times, they are banned for 1 hour.
16. After the hour is up. They log back in, and they can do it all over again.

So one more question just so I know is the ban just that character or account wide because I know I am only 1 click away from ban. Not complaining just would like to know for future reference.

 

[CaraLox]

So one more question just so I know is the ban just that character or account wide because I know I am only 1 click away from ban. Not complaining just would like to know for future reference.

click and find out... buahahaha

 

[Caly]

click and find out... buahahaha

Lol thanks for the helpful answer. You trying to get rid of me?

 

[CaraLox]

Lol thanks for the helpful answer. You trying to get rid of me?

if you dont get an answer before I get home I will logon to test and try it

 

[Caly]

if you dont get an answer before I get home I will logon to test and try it

Oooo I never thought I'd that. I will log on to test and get her banned lmao

 

[Caly]

@Caraldor Loxana Luther account wide lol my test account is banned for 1 hour. Now we know lmao

 

[Myst]

@Caraldor Loxana Luther account wide lol my test account is banned for 1 hour. Now we know lmao

That makes sense since IF you actually were cheating, you'd likely do it on all your accounts.

 

[Ekimie]

So one more question just so I know is the ban just that character or account wide because I know I am only 1 click away from ban. Not complaining just would like to know for future reference.

Get the ban when you were loggin out for bedtime and you're good to go in the morning

 

[Starker]

I was unfairly banned while collecting. You can't really see the exhausted collection point, make it red then! Ridiculous this system of banishment, innocent people are being harmed

 

[Priest Daimheach]

I was unfairly banned while collecting. You can't really see the exhausted collection point, make it red then! Ridiculous this system of banishment, innocent people are being harmed

The fix for the bug will be in the next patch, as previously stated by dev

 

[Joleen]

I've not seen one plentiful gathering spot, but the highest my main character can go is Stone Gardens and the areas under that level. Right now, all I'm feeling is the punitive end, and perhaps if I saw even one plentiful node, anywhere, my opinion could 'possibly' change some. I've seen PD talking a lot in world about how 'fun' these nodes are and not one person has chimed in to say, "Hey, yeah! I had so much fun on that plentiful node I found . . ."

There is always great controversy that comes with big change. I think the lowered drops of globules and gems added a 'stink' on top of what could be a good thing, so I'm not going to beat the drum on something the devs said they'd fix within a couple of weeks, but the changes have hurt a great many people. A large amount of people who won't go to the forums and complain - they simply leave the game.

Botters, cheaters, and exploiters come and go, it's always the faithful player who pays for what the bad guy does.

 

[Priest Daimheach]

While you may have only seen me talk about the plentiful nodes in world chat, many others are looking/finding them. <I mentioned it in world chat because many do not read patch notes and I wanted to try to 'get the word out'>

Your best bet for finding these nodes will not be in 'normal' gather areas. Guildies and I have had luck in regular zones...Like Cook Cavern or Hogfish Mine - places that people don't normally go for gathering.

These nodes are like Zingara for combat. They're rare. They're random.

Regarding the glob drop rate, devs have stated that this is being looked at and addressed in the next build. I don't recall gem drop rate dropping, but my memory is not all that great.

 

[Priest Daimheach]

I am concerned that while this bug is in place players are getting warnings and bans they would not have gotten if the bug was not active. Can we get our records 'purged' after the bug is fixed for any players who have only made a simple mistake?

I believe Diet said in another post that it's not actually a ban. You are simply booted from the game for an hour.
I don't think the current system keeps track of who is banned or how long.

 

[Kookaburra]

I've not seen one plentiful gathering spot, but the highest my main character can go is Stone Gardens and the areas under that level. Right now, all I'm feeling is the punitive end, and perhaps if I saw even one plentiful node, anywhere, my opinion could 'possibly' change some. I've seen PD talking a lot in world about how 'fun' these nodes are and not one person has chimed in to say, "Hey, yeah! I had so much fun on that plentiful node I found . . ."

Well I will chime in now then. I have not gone out hunting them but have found several (maybe half a dozen) when I am out running normal zones. They are great fun - tons of mats, gems and plenty of bonus drops and repair globules. My hunter with mid-30s gathering skills has gained at least 25 levels from plentiful nodes alone with no special effort to go out and hunt them down. When I have been with my normal playing partner and we see one, we have taken turns until the plentiful node is empty. I am a big fan - they are fun and profitable!

 

[CaraLox]

In one of his posts, Diet said the records of whoever is warned or banned is kept forever. Player can get a warning now and again in a year and it would still count towards the ban. I will try to find that.

I rememebr that too, also see to remeber sayingsomething like in the future that couldmaybe possibly be changed...

 

[Majenta]

I didn't find it but if its important devs will clarify.

Post 34 in this thread.

The game "counts" the number of times you have been kicked to char screen, and that count remains. So the fifth time it happens, you get an hour long kick (effectively a ban) even if that is long after the 4th time. As Diet stated in that post, they may change that in the future.

But I don't think they are keeping a list of all those banned for botting, or publishing a "Mad Otter's 10 Most Wanted." The game simply remembers you were kicked before, in much the same way that it remembers you were level 46 before you rebirthed. There are more sophisticated ways they can investigate to see if someone is actually botting, this is simply a first stage.

 

[Chris30s]

In one of his posts, Diet said the records of whoever is warned or banned is kept forever. Player can get a warning now and again in a year and it would still count towards the ban. I will try to find that.

Yes, but it's kept forever only if you never hit boot #5. Once you are booted for the 5th time, getting the hour ban, your record is forgotten and you start over.

 

[Joleen]

While you may have only seen me talk about the plentiful nodes in world chat, many others are looking/finding them. <I mentioned it in world chat because many do not read patch notes and I wanted to try to 'get the word out'>

Your best bet for finding these nodes will not be in 'normal' gather areas. Guildies and I have had luck in regular zones...Like Cook Cavern or Hogfish Mine - places that people don't normally go for gathering.

These nodes are like Zingara for combat. They're rare. They're random.

Regarding the glob drop rate, devs have stated that this is being looked at and addressed in the next build. I don't recall gem drop rate dropping, but my memory is not all that great.

Before I went to bed last night I went to the highest areas my toon could go to (that has nodes) and did some plentiful node hunting. They are out there in the wild, and I found several. It was fun! I will do what I can with the materials I pulled and may do that until the changes come because I noticed that much more globules AND gems are being gleaned from wild nodes. Why is this? Were botters REALLY doing more damage inside of villages?
I'm hoping the devs didn't intentionally target village nodes because my toon is nearing level 80, she hasn't cleared Pyrron yet (NOT rebirthing again until Pyrron is DONE) and the natural mats she needs are not at her disposal EXCEPT in the Village.