Gathering bans.

[dustbunny]

Oh boy, a new toy. Almost makes me want to come back to the game just to see how many times I can get myself booted for an hour before they do come for me. Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you.

 

[Seawolf]

It lets you do this a total of 5 times before it gives a ban. Some information was saying that it banned on the first time, it DOES NOT.

The final result will be a system where players will have to click on an exhausted node a total of 25 times before getting an hour ban. That is 25 red warning messages, 25 errors sounds, 25 times your character doesn't start gathering, and several times of being kicked from the server. This is a LOT of chances to get it right.

Im looking for a bit of clarification. Sorry I'm just stupid I guess.

So is it clicking 5 times on an empty node that gets you an hour long ban. Or clicking 25 times that gets you banned for an hour? Or is the 25 times coming in a future patch?

 

[CaraLox]

Im looking for a bit of clarification. Sorry I'm just stupid I guess.

So is it clicking 5 times on an empty node that gets you an hour long ban. Or clicking 25 times that gets you banned for an hour? Or is the 25 times coming in a future patch?

I think it's 25 times for 1 hour ban
5 times you get DC'd

 

[Majenta]

Clicking 5 times gets you kicked back to char select (but you can log back in immediately).

Clicking 5 times again, gets you kicked again, and once you have done this 5 times (ie 25 clicks on the exhausted node) you get kicked for an hour.

But seemingly it isn't working quite right, in that it kicks you instantly if you log back on and click the node again.

 

[Seawolf]

It makes sense that you might not notice one empty click, but by two or three you should start to get the hint. What kind of denseness requires a person to click something 25 times before they realize it's not working, and then come complain about it?

This is EXACTLY why people dont come here to post. What kind of person comes to a forum to mock someone for stating their opinion on a game and turns it in to a joke. Not everyone in the world has perfect vision. Not everyone can even see certain colors. This is EXACTLY what is wrong with these toxic forums and I'm SERIOUSLY sick of it.
P.S. its 5 times. Not 25 times.
I'm finished with the forums. Done.

 

[Leizong]

取消宝石和使用新的反外挂系统请你选择一个，我一直建议水獭取消宝石，但是他们已经足够仁慈。耗费很大的精力来做出这个系统，游戏在变好

 

[BrikHaus]

The way I understand it from Diet's post is that it takes 5 times to get booted to character select. Do that 5 times and you get the 1 HR BAN (i.e. 25x). {Mod edit} The current issue though is that the new script is not working correctly and people are getting the BAN after logging back in from a boot to Char select and then trying to click an empty node yet again once they log back in (i.e. 6x if that makes more sense).

What worries myself most is that the system for this doesn't recognize 'exhausted node mis-clicks' as consecutive occurrences. Meaning that your clicking violations, if you will, never ever reset.
Per Diet

. But basically as it stands now, you could get kicked 4 times from the game, and then play a year without getting kicked at all, then get kicked one final time and get an hour ban

So while its a pain to deal with right now, it appears its just not working as intended and we need to be patient and less carefree with gathering until its fixed.

 

[Seawolf]

The way I understand it from Diet's post is that it takes 5 times to get booted to character select. Do that 5 times and you get the 1 HR BAN (i.e. 25x). {Mod edit} The current issue though is that the new script is not working correctly and people are getting the BAN after logging back in from a boot to Char select and then trying to click an empty node yet again once they log back in (i.e. 6x if that makes more sense).

What worries myself most is that the system for this doesn't recognize 'exhausted node mis-clicks' as consecutive occurrences. Meaning that your clicking violations, if you will, never ever reset.
Per Diet

So while its a pain to deal with right now, it appears its just not working as intended and we need to be patient and less carefree with gathering until its fixed.

That's the way it's intended to work. But that is not how its working.

 

[Seawolf]

I made a statement, and then asked a question. I didn't call anybody anything. If you feel that the answer to my question is that there is no denseness, and that it is instead something else, then that is suitable to me.

However, just as happiness is a state of mind and not a destination, so is its opposite. While you cannot control what others say and do, you can control how you react to what others say and do. If you choose to be offended, then know that your offense entirely your choice and take responsibility for it.

You call people dense. I guess you mean that as a compliment. Let me help you with the definition. Along with your rolling crying laughter.

 

[Seawolf]

P.S. editing your post after the fact doesn't make it go away. Let me help remind you of what you exactly posted.

 

[Seawolf]

The only editing was the removal of emojis, which I felt to be a bit much. However, my statement and my questions were not changed. I will just assume (since you never formally answered my questions) that you don't feel that there was any denseness involved. I find that answer acceptable.

You mocking someone by saying only someone dense could do that. I find it highly offensive. You can try and spin this any way that helps you feel better about yourself. People get attacked when they post things here. Especially by people who are here trying to suck up to devs to make them feel some self worth. Others come here to make it a better game for everyone. We try to offer solutions instead of being a lap dog.

 

[Majenta]

I have deleted several posts where posters were either making derogatory comments about others or were quoting or referring to the said comments.

Please keep all comments respectful of others and refrain from insulting or argumentative posts.

I would remind all posters that these are discussion forums and that everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you disagree with a poster's opinion, attacking what someone has posted is acceptable. Attacking the person who posted is not.

 

[IrishElf]

Im looking for a bit of clarification. Sorry I'm just stupid I guess.

So is it clicking 5 times on an empty node that gets you an hour long ban. Or clicking 25 times that gets you banned for an hour? Or is the 25 times coming in a future patch?

I just read Diet's response so let me take a try... and no you are not stupid, sometimes it takes some of us a bit longer to "get" stuff!

So you are gathering and the node depletes, you continue to click 5 more times, you will get sent silently to character select screen.
You log back in and click 5 more times on that same depleted node... you get sent silently to character select screen.
You do this 3 more times making it 5 attempts; a total of 25 empty clicks and get kick from the game for an hour.

What he also said is this is cumulative, if you've clicked on nodes in the past when they were empty and got booted for "suspicious behavior" it has already been added to your total.

But once you get a 1 hour ban, you start over from scratch again.

Does that help I hope?

 

[CaraLox]

I just read Diet's response so let me take a try... and no you are not stupid, sometimes it takes some of us a bit longer to "get" stuff!

So you are gathering and the node depletes, you continue to click 5 more times, you will get sent silently to character select screen.
You log back in and click 5 more times on that same depleted node... you get sent silently to character select screen.
You do this 3 more times making it 5 attempts; a total of 25 empty clicks and get kick from the game for an hour.

What he also said is this is cumulative, if you've clicked on nodes in the past when they were empty and got booted for "suspicious behavior" it has already been added to your total.

But once you get a 1 hour ban, you start over from scratch again.

Does that help I hope?

that helps me.
So we need to develop some new habits. Gather a node to exhaustion, and do not click it again.

I have a habit of gathering for a few minutes here and there... I recently learned from another post that these are remembered, so someday I’m going to run into a lot of quickly exhausting nodes.... if I don’t change.

 

[IrishElf]

I have a habit of gathering for a few minutes here and there.

You and me both! I catch myself going to back off when I've forgotten to take a pie or other gather buff.
Well No more!! LOL

 

[Majenta]

that helps me.
So we need to develop some new habits. Gather a node to exhaustion, and do not click it again.

I have a habit of gathering for a few minutes here and there... I recently learned from another post that these are remembered, so someday I’m going to run into a lot of quickly exhausting nodes.... if I don’t change.

my emphasis

I think this second point also needs clarification, but my understanding is that the nodes slowly return to normal if you do not exhaust them. I assume this is so that botters cannot simply set up a program to click for ten minutes, wait ten minutes, click for ten again etc. As I understand it, if you clicked on a node for 5 minutes to gather (say) 500 items, then came back a couple of days later, the node would be as normal. Only if you came back within an hour or so would it still "remember" the previous 5 clicks.

As I stated elsewhere, I may be wrong, but this is how I understand the system. Perhaps a Dev could give a definitive answer.

 

[CaraLox]

my emphasis

I think this second point also needs clarification, but my understanding is that the nodes slowly return to normal if you do not exhaust them. I assume this is so that botters cannot simply set up a program to click for ten minutes, wait ten minutes, click for ten again etc. As I understand it, if you clicked on a node for 5 minutes to gather (say) 500 items, then came back a couple of days later, the node would be as normal. Only if you came back within an hour or so would it still "remember" the previous 5 clicks.

As I stated elsewhere, I may be wrong, but this is how I understand the system. Perhaps a Dev could give a definitive answer.

here:https://www.madottergames.com/forums/threads/botters-cheaters-and-exploiters-oh-my.1283/post-27916

 

[Seawolf]

I just read Diet's response so let me take a try... and no you are not stupid, sometimes it takes some of us a bit longer to "get" stuff!

So you are gathering and the node depletes, you continue to click 5 more times, you will get sent silently to character select screen.
You log back in and click 5 more times on that same depleted node... you get sent silently to character select screen.
You do this 3 more times making it 5 attempts; a total of 25 empty clicks and get kick from the game for an hour.

What he also said is this is cumulative, if you've clicked on nodes in the past when they were empty and got booted for "suspicious behavior" it has already been added to your total.

But once you get a 1 hour ban, you start over from scratch again.

Does that help I hope?

That does help me thank you for breaking it down for me so clearly. Someone close to me thought she was dcing and when she rentered the game and clicked just on it one time it and it would throw her back out. This happened 5 times and she was banned. So, I guess that in some cases there might be a bug. Or maybe she just didn't realize she was clicking 5 times on the empty node again and just thought she was clicking once. I will ask her to listen for the audio difference as well. I think she often listens to the TV or music as the repetitive clinking can get aggravating at times. I'm sure that if it really is a problem the otters will get it fixed at some point. Thanks again.

 

[Majenta]

That does help me thank you for breaking it down for me so clearly. Someone close to me thought she was dcing and when she rentered the game and clicked just on it one time it and it would throw her back out. This happened 5 times and she was banned. So, I guess that in some cases there might be a bug. Or maybe she just didn't realize she was clicking 5 times on the empty node again and just thought she was clicking once. I will ask her to listen for the audio difference as well. I think she often listens to the TV or music as the repetitive clinking can get aggravating at times. I'm sure that if it really is a problem the otters will get it fixed at some point. Thanks again.

I think Diet mentioned in his post that there appeared to be a problem whereby players who had once been sent back to char select were being dc'd again instantly upon clicking the node, which was indeed a bug, so it seems that your friend was bugged.

 

[IrishElf]

With each update comes a new learning curve... we are all learning new stuff together!